Carmen and I started using these products in 2008 after i had to retire early from a shipyard after a sress related collapse. I was severly overweight with high cholesterol, joint and back problems and generally poor health, popping medications (10-14 pills a day) like candy and not improving although I was following my doctor's advice and had actually lost 14 kilos by diet and walking every day. Carmen was also over weight, although healthier, and suffers from diabetes B and high BP. Now I'm off of all meds and Carmen is on the absolute minimum, we've lost 24 and 14 Kgs respectively and go to the gym three times a week for a two-hour workout program under the guidance of a monitor. We're active, interested, healthy, happy and motivated. If we can do all this, two old grandparents, so can you! Note that hese are simply the best natural nutritional products available, not miracle potions, not medicine simply nutrition. It is really amazing what our bodies can do when they have everything they need every day in the right quantities.